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A forum to promote and defend the vision of Vatican II 
Edited by  Fr John Wotherspoon O.M.I. 
胡 頌 恆 神 父        Original articles have "comments welcome here" link

DV  New articles 7 days a week to encourage people trying to follow the example of Pope Francis
in implementing the vision of Vatican II by service of the poor, by a simple life style, by simple liturgy,
by concern for Ecumenism, by concern for climate change, by concern for renewal of the Church
- all underpinned by a rededication to the Bible

The New Translation                                                                                                                "Reform of the reform" agenda

      
      
Pope Francis:
       Thank you Holy Spirit!

       Imitating Pope Francis

Sunday May 12
Solemnity of the Ascension

Happy Mother's Day!
(in 80 countries on this day)

Pope Francis:
He ascended into heaven

Painful goodbyes & the Ascension
Ron Rolheiser OMI

The Cry of the Poor
 
Darlene Starrs
(Canada Sunday blogger)

Scripture tells us that the Lord hears the cry of the poor. Given what  happened with the Sisters of the US this week at the Vatican,
 I dedicate this song to them, and all of us women, who continue to be told by the Vatican that our place is to obey the men

Darlene's feelings are echoed in this email from a reader which has the words 
"Not sure if there was any problem with the translation, but I was dismayed by what Pope Francis said during his meeting with representatives of the UISG"

This issue seems to be a case of "mixed signals": first Abp saying Pope backed previous (harsh) assessment

then a cardinal saying he wasn't consulted about the assessment

then the pope's address to the sisters

Full text of pope's address - in Italian

Can anyone find text in English?
Please let me know: jdwomi@gmail.com

A final thought: parts of text quoted in English don't seem "Franciscan" ...more like something written by a Vatican official???

This week's smile
 - a story for Mother's Day
and
- God and grass

To prepare for Pentecost
let's reflect on Holy Spirit
during the coming days

Ascension cloud was Holy Spirit!

Cloud and light. These two images occur together in the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. In the theophanies of the Old Testament, the cloud, now obscure, now luminous, reveals the living and saving God, while veiling the transcendence of his glory - with Moses on Mount Sinai, at the tent of meeting, and during the wandering in the desert,5 and with Solomon at the dedication of the Temple.

 In the Holy Spirit, Christ fulfills these figures. The Spirit comes upon the Virgin Mary and "overshadows" her, so that she might conceive and give birth to Jesus. On the mountain of Transfiguration, the Spirit in the "cloud came and overshadowed" Jesus, Moses and Elijah, Peter, James and John, and "a voice came out of the cloud, saying, 'This is my Son, my Chosen; listen to him!'"
 Finally, the cloud took Jesus out of the sight of the disciples on the day of his ascension and will reveal him as Son of man in glory on the day of his final coming.
- CCC 697

Pope meets European bishops

 

Today also
 World Communications Sunday

But who's going to talk about communications on Feast of Ascension ...and Mother's Day?
c.f. WCS needs a dedicated day

Vatican II  Reflection 86
What did Vatican II actually say about the use of Latin?

 Reading Reflection Prayer
Menu for today May 12
The Ascension
A cloud took him from their sight.
Cloud = the Holy Spirit!
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John W - Blog - May 12
A beautiful song for Mother's Day

Monday May 13

Loss of enthusiasm
John W
"You can only have long-lasting enthusiasm if you have a fire that burns within you"

Romero sainthood cause
on long tangled path

Yesterday, May 12:
Pope canonised 802 saints

Benedict XVI did more than John Paul II for Christian Unity

 

To prepare for Pentecost let's reflect on the Holy Spirit during this week

The seal is a symbol close to that of anointing. "The Father has set his seal" on Christ and also seals us in him. Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacraments of Baptism, Confirmation, and Holy Orders, the image of the seal (sphragis) has been used in some theological traditions to express the indelible "character" imprinted by these three unrepeatable sacraments. - CCC 698

Russian Patriarch meets
Chinese President
Could be a sign that Beijing may be willing to resume high-level dialogue with the leaders of Christian Churches, starting with the Catholic Church

12,000 Lourdes participants 
focus on the poor 

Interactive Bible Quiz - Exodus
Based on the actual words of the Bible.
How many times you can get 3/3 ?!

 
Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today May 13
Paul prayed with power.
When we pray, any power?
Please add a comment
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Climate Change:
Hundreds of millions homeless?

North Dakota's last abortion clinic

Old age is a gift to be enjoyed
Joseph Girzone
When  “The Homeless Bishop”  came out, and the new pope was elected, many of those who read the book were struck by the many similarities between the homeless bishop and the new pope, even to their decision not to live in the papal palace, but in a little apartment in a house on the Vatican grounds. One twelve year old boy who read “The Homeless Bishop” was watching the news one night and when the reporter was talking about the new pope, the boy ran out into the kitchen and told his mother to come and look the news, “The homeless bishop was just made pope.”  c.f. The Homeless Bishop

Vatican II  Reflection 87
Liturgy - cultural adaptations:
dream or nightmare?


John W - Blog - May 13
Photo report of last Saturday

In view of reflections above
- re Holy Spirit and
fire
("Loss of enthusiasm")
- re Holy Spirit and
seal
(Preparing for Pentecost)

This song takes on extra meaning!

Set me like a seal on your heart,
like a seal on your arm.
Set me like a seal on your heart,
how right it is to love you

For love is stronger than death
stronger even than hell.
A flash of it is a flash of fire,
a flame of Yahweh himself

Come then my love, come my beloved.
No flood can quench our love,
for love, if real, has no end

Tuesday May 14
Feast of St Matthias, apostle
"the luckiest day of the year"???

Letters from Vatican City
Martin Mallon 
(Tuesday blogger from Ireland)
Reading Letters From Vatican City is quite shocking fifty years later. I have read a few books on Vatican II and the Council dealings, but this one brings out the differences clearly and shows how some cardinals and bishops gave false information during the debates 

Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today May 14
At a time of crisis in the Church,
Matthias is a great example of faith and trust and loyalty and perseverance 
Please add a comment
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Saint Matthias was overlooked: 
c.f. this list of famous people who were successful after being overlooked or unsuccessful

After Bangladesh tragedy:
Retailers are pressed 
on safety at factories

And the Rev. Seamus P. Finn, representing shareholders from the Catholic organization Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate, has been circulating a letter among religious organizations — groups that control more than $100 billion in assets — to express displeasure with the nation’s retailers. He says the retailers have not done nearly enough to improve workplace safety for the more than three million garment workers in Bangladesh.

Sweatshops: where corporate greed
and human misery meet

 

To prepare for Pentecost let's reflect on the Holy Spirit during this week

The hand is another symbol of the Holy Spirit. Jesus heals the sick and blesses little children by laying hands on them. In his name the apostles will do the same. Even more pointedly, it is by the Apostles' imposition of hands that the Holy Spirit is given. The Letter to the Hebrews lists the imposition of hands among the "fundamental elements" of its teaching. The Church has kept this sign of the all-powerful outpouring of the Holy Spirit  by having the priest at Mass extend his hands over the bread and wine as he says "Let your Spirit come upon these gifts to make them holy"
  - c.f.  CCC 699

Vatican II  Reflection 88
Liturgy a source of unity or disunity?

This Saturday night and Sunday,
Pope has 2 important engagements:

18 Saturday - Pentecost Vigil
Saint Peter's Square, at 18:00
Pentecost Vigil with the Ecclesial Movements

19 Pentecost Sunday
Saint Peter's Square, at 10:00  
 Mass with the Ecclesial Movements

John W - Blog - May 14
Reflection on St Matthias
- "never mind what might have been" 

Today's article by Martin Mallon mentions how the Eastern Church had a far richer understanding of the Holy Spirit than the Western Church.  Some ideas re this topic
are in this article

Martin's article also mentions 
"the Eastern idea of divinisation"
c.f.
"Divinisation in early Christianity"
 ...the second main section
of this article

Also related is the way
 Pneumatology divides the Church






Wednesday May 8

The shadow of the Cross
Chris McDonnell 
(UK Wed blogger)

It is the shadow of the cross that has hovered over
Europe and many parts of the Earth for 2000 years. It is an integral part of our Christian Faith. We talk about “the crosses that we have to carry”, the difficulties and stress that are part of our human condition. But that burden is something that we do not carry alone

 Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today May 8
YouTube: Though the mountains may fall
All leaders, especially Christians leaders, should care for the poor, the needy and the weak
Is it ok to pray that a young person who has died will come back to life?
 How a non-baptized person can go to Heaven, and how a baptized person can go to Hell
Please add a comment!
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What's in a name?
A great wrap up of the early days of Pope Francis' ministry

Pope Francis is attached to traditional devotions and not afraid to show it

Vatican meeting: Sisters grasp the extended hand
(Sisters due to meet with Pope today, May 8)

Protestant gathering
praises Pope

Cultural blindness in Church abuse investigations

Enough already
There is no point at which those who accumulate money become satisfied

Why are we so resistant
to teaching Jesus
as our religion?


Vatican II  Reflection 82

Which rite is right?

John W - Blog - May 8
All groups, small and large, have 3 choices:
-
die out
- stagnate
-
grow


































Thursday May 9

 

To prepare for Pentecost
let's reflect on Holy Spirit
during the coming days

The Holy Spirit is the living water "welling up to eternal life" in the heart that prays. It is he who teaches us to accept it at its source: Christ. Indeed in the Christian life there are several wellsprings where Christ awaits us to enable us to drink of the Holy Spirit.

Speaking of water...
Bangldesh: drinking water fast disappearing

A Vatican cardinal
pulls back the curtain
- on power struggle opera

Sisters meeting in Rome:
Obedience to God's voice
 heard in the poor

No mention of row
as Pope meets sisters

 

Every Thursday, Daniel Daring's reflection on the Sunday readings,  to help us prepare for Sunday:
The Ascension (C):
Between Jesus' absence
 and the Spirit's presence

The realization of Jesus’ absence never hit me so strongly as in Macau.  The city has many  old churches, filled with Christian paintings and statues, but empty of people, save for a few visitors. Yet you can find tens of thousands of people in nearby casinos

Point of this article:
include the laity and succeed, leave them out and fail. Has all sorts of ramifications

 
 Reading Reflection Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today May 9
No "house of prayer" should ever turn anyone away 
Evil regimes have within them the seeds of destruction
Don't hesitate to do anything helpful for others
A mind compromised by evil
Please add a comment!
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Jesuit Podcast:
Young and imprisoned
Inmates wrote to Pope
 to thank him for washing inmates' feet

Ted's Talks - Video (6 min)
Read Chinese easily
(!)

Association of US priests to hold annual meeting June 24-27
Speakers include
Robert Kaiser and Robert Mickens

Vatican  II  Reflection 83
Tridentine Rite used only 1% of the Old Testament  and only 16.5% of the NT

John W - Blog - May 9
How to protect first fervor from becoming "just going through the motions"

Friday May 10

Anglican Ordinariate,
Lutheran Ordinariate,
and Blessed John Henry Newman
Fr Harry Winter OMI
(USA blogger)

I would beg any Catholic who has misgivings about the Anglican Ordinariate, to find a former Anglican pastor who has survived the first year of the preparation course for ordination to the priesthood in the Catholic Church.  By this time, the angry ultra-conservatives have either been weeded out or transformed.  I think you will like those you meet, and welcome them as a blessing to our
Church.  

 Reading  Reflection  Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today May 10
Words to help us hear Pope's call to help poor
Parents/teachers
...& next generation
Don't waste money, food...life
source and summit 
of Christian faith
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Pope's meeting with 800 sisters:
Report 01    02

Pope's morning homily:
Evangelize, don't proselytize

 

To prepare for Pentecost
let's reflect on Holy Spirit
during the coming days

The symbolism of anointing with oil also signifies the Holy Spirit, to the point of becoming a synonym for the Holy Spirit. In Christian initiation, anointing is the sacramental sign of Confirmation, called "chrismation" in the Churches of the East. 

Its full force can be grasped only in relation to the primary anointing accomplished by the Holy Spirit, that of Jesus. Christ (in Hebrew "messiah") means the one "anointed" by God's Spirit. There were several anointed ones of the Lord in the Old Covenant, pre-eminently King David.

 But Jesus is God's Anointed in a unique way: the humanity the Son assumed was entirely anointed by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit established him as "Christ." 

The Virgin Mary conceived Christ by the Holy Spirit who, through the angel, proclaimed him the Christ at his birth, and prompted Simeon to come to the temple to see the Christ of the Lord. The Spirit filled Christ and the power of the Spirit went out from him in his acts of healing and of saving. It was the Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead. 

Now, fully established as "Christ" in his humanity victorious over death, Jesus pours out the Holy Spirit abundantly until "the saints" constitute - in their union with the humanity of the Son of God - that perfect man "to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ" - "the whole Christ," in St. Augustine's expression.
- CCC 695


Vatican II Reflection 84
Avoiding liturgical extremes

John W - Blog - May 10
Praying for collapse of Communism in China

Saturday May 11


Today is the feast of 
Our Lady of China
A history of this feast

Another history

By a happy coincidence, today is also the anniversary of both Matteo Ricci (1610) and his early companion Michele Ruggieri (1607) - the Jesuit pioneers in China who established a great love for Mary in the hearts of the people of China


A VIP article:

Don't let spring turn to winter
 Hans Kung re Pope Francis
If Pope Francis tackles reforms, 
he will find he has the wide approval of people far beyond the Catholic Church

 Reading  Reflection  Prayer
- with readers' comments
Menu for today May 11
Mary part of the apostolic group praying for coming of Holy Spirit
With Mary, praise God
from sunrise to sunset
Jesus mother our heavenly mother
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Check it out: Today there will be
 three popes in Vatican!

Put an end to fear in the Church

Tomorrow: Pope to canonise
Colombia's first saint

 

To prepare for Pentecost
let's reflect on Holy Spirit
during the coming days

Fire. While water signifies birth and the fruitfulness of life given in the Holy Spirit, fire symbolizes the transforming energy of the Holy Spirit's actions. The prayer of the prophet Elijah, who "arose like fire" and whose "word burned like a torch," brought down fire from heaven on the sacrifice on Mount Carmel. This event was a "figure" of the fire of the Holy Spirit, who transforms what he touches. John the Baptist, who goes "before [the Lord] in the spirit and power of Elijah," proclaims Christ as the one who "will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." Jesus will say of the Spirit: "I came to cast fire upon the earth; and would that it were already kindled!" In the form of tongues "as of fire," the Holy Spirit rests on the disciples on the morning of Pentecost and fills them with himself The spiritual tradition has retained this symbolism of fire as one of the most expressive images of the Holy Spirit's actions. "Do not quench the Spirit."
- CCC 696


Vatican II Reflection 85
More, not less, Scripture
in the Liturgy


John W - Blog - May 11
A good day to pray for China!

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Please encourage more people to see 1-10  re Bishop Bill Morris:
1: Judge's conclusions
2: Canon lawyer's report
 
3: Radio interview with judge

4:  "The Age" file of letters
5: Summary re Rome
 6: Frank Brennan's update
7: ABC radio Fr Frank Brennan

8. Update from Frank Brennan

9. Vatileaks & Bp Bill Morris

10: Tablet letter - Frank Brennan

After reading 1-10, check the "Pravda" report of CNA

Google "Morris" at top of this page
for many articles re Bishop BM,
the most recent being talk of March 26, 2013: Reclaiming the Spirit of Vatican II










Bishop Geoff Robinson
 and Bishop Bill Morris:

Petition
to Pope Francis
to stop sexual abuse 
and to reform Church
- & calling for a new 
Ecumenical Council
!
(John W has signed petition)

Brian Coyne (Catholica):
Support this petition


Pat Power
Bp Geoff Robinson
Bruce Duncan
Catalyst for Renewal
Catholics for Ministry  
Catholics for Renewal
Frank Brennan
Peter Johnstone     
The Swag
 
1998 ICEL Sacramentary

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Fr Hans Küng:      Letter to bishops    Revolution to stop authoritarianism 
Fr Joseph Ratzinger:  Writings on Vat II          Robert Mickens: Vatican Implosion
Nicholas Lash:     Vatican II: Of Happy Memory - and Hope?
Robert McNally: Crisis & Criticism in the Church 
Ron Schmit:  1962 Mass a condemnation of Vat II

The new translation of the Mass
Ghastly process, ghastly result

Excellent articles on Mission
by Fr Hugh McMahon SSC

Abortion - a true story

Same-sex marriage and anal sex

Priests 9 Masses a day - need to ordain married men

The evil of compulsory celibacy

Link between compulsory celibacy and sexual abuse

Why are women not being ordained to priesthood?

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